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Springroz Senior Member Posts: 1101 |
posted November 02, 2002 05:59 PM
  
Well Tuesday is the day. All the old ladies and myself will file into our little booths and be equally confused by all the levers. You see, this my first election. I am 21 and just registered with the great state of NJ. And voting has always been important to me. Regardless of if it is a big election or not. I grow increasing frustrated with people who only vote in Presidential elections. Local govt effects you more than anything the president says. It takes years for those laws to be inacted. Do you vote? Why or why not? Do you really think that your vote doesnt count? Are you tired of politicians and their games? IP: Logged |
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JustJenn Senior Member Posts: 1550 |
posted November 03, 2002 12:56 AM
I did not vote because I am Canadian, and apparently I am not allowed to, although I think since the US claims to be the leaders of the free world, the free world should all be in charge of picking its leaders. I did vote in the last election in my riding though, and cracked up because one of the names on the ballot was totally a guy I went to high school with, ummm we were 22 at the time. He did not win, neither did the person I voted for, some stupid guy who has done shit for my area won, however he has done things for the Greek community of which he is apart of. IP: Logged |
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Calvin924 Senior Member Posts: 84 |
posted November 03, 2002 12:42 PM
I vote, of course. In fact, I've already voted for this election with an absentee ballot (cause I'm away at college). I wasn't going to vote, since Wellstone passed away last week and he was my candidate, but I did end up voting after all. I feel bad b/c there was a whole page of judges to vote for, and how am I supposed to know anything about them, and half of them don't have any competition anyway. I just left that whole page blank. I don't vote if I don't know what I'm voting about, b/c that is just plain wrong, and people who do that are damaging our government. I turned 18 in 2000, so I was very excited to vote in the presidential election, but since I vote democratic, I was very disillusioned with the voting process after all that hoopla. That was a defining moment for "my vote doesn't count." Many want to abolish the electoral college all together, and I can understand why, but I don't think that would work too well logistically. Instead, I think we need a proportional electoral college instead of the all-or-nothing system we have now. Anyway, that's my thoughts, IP: Logged |
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ericka Senior Member Posts: 618 |
posted November 03, 2002 11:06 PM
I don't vote. The fact that I'm 16 has something to do with it. But I can vote in the next presidential election, which is semi-exciting. Bush won't get my vote. IP: Logged |
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Springroz Senior Member Posts: 1101 |
posted November 04, 2002 06:04 AM
quote: The electoral college is so insulting. I cant believe it is still practiced today. I think our ancesters would be shocked to see a policy they inacted hundereds of years ago is still practiced to the degree it is. Regardless, it is what we have. The whole campaign system is based on it...It would take a lot to dislodge those bricks from our system. It could be worse. We could be voting in Iraq. But the Electoral College was setup because people were illiterate and didnt have a clue what was going on. A hundered years later, eavesdrop on a conversation and see how people are voting nowadays. Most people dont vote based on issues. The vote because one candidate is better looking than the next, or is a certain religion, or simply because one candidate is more popular than the other one. And since everyone else is voting for him...
quote: You can vote for our leaders if we can vote for yours! We should have a fruit basket changeover election. Everyone vote for a different country's leaders. It could be a party. Party hats and noisemakers. We can dress up like we were, say from England, in suits and bowler hats. We will talk about how we hate the queen and how Tony Blair is going to screw us over. But he is still loveable all the same. But seriously, the US is the leader, like it or not. The free world could always choose to have another leader (the way things are going, that might happen sooner than we think). But "the free world" can only choose their leaders, not the leader of those leaders. IP: Logged |
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bronwen Senior Member Posts: 131 |
posted November 04, 2002 07:44 AM
I vote, and have voted Democrat proudly since 1988. My theory is, if you don't vote, you have no right to complain about the government. Go vote! Bronwen IP: Logged |
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JustJenn Senior Member Posts: 1550 |
posted November 04, 2002 06:30 PM
"You can vote for our leaders if we can vote for yours!" Dude, go for it, since we do not get to vote for our leader you are welcome to try...Which also kinda nullifies the idea ‘"the free world" can only choose their leaders, not the leader of those leaders.’ [This message has been edited by JustJenn (edited November 04, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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sweetsnail Senior Member Posts: 1527 |
posted November 05, 2002 01:41 AM
I voted like three weeks ago. In Colorado Springs, they are doing all our regional voting by absentee. We are trying to pass a state-wide amendment to make all our elections done by absentee, to try and increase "voter outturn". I think it's very important to vote. And I'm like Calvin, didn't vote either way for the judges.  "do you think so and so should be retained?" how the heck do I know? I don't have their track records on hand...-steph ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Springroz Senior Member Posts: 1101 |
posted November 09, 2002 08:50 AM
So how are Canada's leaders chosen? IP: Logged |
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Aquagirl Senior Member Posts: 142 |
posted November 11, 2002 11:47 PM
I voted!! and Tony Sanchez did not win but I'm not really bummed since both candidates were horrible, mudslinging each other all the time. Anyways, I'm more bummed that the Democrats no longer hold a majority in the Senate, which sux for all the committee chairs and they're grand old ideas. Aquagirl IP: Logged |
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sweetsnail Senior Member Posts: 1527 |
posted November 12, 2002 02:09 PM
The mudslinging kills me. There were some really dirty races being run here and it made me sick. I'm glad I didn't really see a lot of the negative ads that ran in my precinct. The US rep from Ft. Collins would not have gotten my vote. She ran a disgusting campaign. Her ads were negative, she had her campaign manager talking to the media telling us what she thought. I think I saw maybe two quotes from her, and I think one of those might have been from a press release. Her opponant is of Asian decent. Most of her ads started by showing a picture of him and a voice over saying "Is this the kind of man you want representing you?" It seemed pretty blatant racism. A quote the day before elections from her campaign manager (because she was apparently too busy sitting on her butt in her office...she didn't make any public appearances that I heard of, not even the debate schedule for the precinct) said that she was glad that she wasn't Matsunaka because they were going to win and he was going to lose. She reminds me of one of those kids that always had to win when playing games. That she won just makes me sick. -stephanie IP: Logged |
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mamabear Member Posts: 24 |
posted November 12, 2002 02:49 PM
I've voted in every election since I've been old enough to do so. Only one guy I voted for won, but I figure that if I don't vote, I lose my right to bitch. IP: Logged |
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kenmeyer Senior Member Posts: 148 |
posted November 18, 2002 09:43 AM
Election, great movie, great subject for a thread, Spring! Great taste in films. Great gosh a mighty, great googly moogly. IP: Logged |
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JustJenn Senior Member Posts: 1550 |
posted November 19, 2002 10:52 AM
Sorry I have been MIA. In Canada we have five major political parties, Candian Alliance, Progressive Conversative, Liberal, New Democrates, and the Parti Quebecious (I really do not care if I spell that right). We have three levels of government municipal (the mayor and councillors) this is voted on by riding and I think we get to vote for the mayor, I never vote in this election because our mayor (who sucks) runs practically unapposed, last time it was against a drag queen, some guy who was chained in an abandoned hospital and this old man that sing in a street corner downtown. And the way it works both Federally and Provincially is each party picks their own leader (the public has no say), then their is an election, people from each party run for seats in parlament, boom whoever wins the most gets to be in charge of the country. Which ends up being completely unfair to certain areas, because certain parties do better in different parts of Canada, but because of population those places have minimal chance of every being represented in government. The number of seats per riding is dictated by population of an area. Therefore living in downtown Toronto we have a higher population than most places therefore we have more seats, which of course dominates the outcome for the rest of the country. It also sucks because the person in your riding may have a record of voting a certain way which you agree, but belong to a party that you do not as a whole agree with, but if you vote for that person you end up voting for that party. Now the other thing that is very different, is our Prime Minister (for those of ya'll who do not know Canada does not have a president) can be in office as long as his party decides he will still be leading them. Our current PM got in office I believe just prior to Clinton the first time and I believe has promised he will step down in 2004. There are sometimes when it gets weird because the person in charge of the country or province was not the person who ran for the position to begin with. We had had the same premier of Ontario for years (he sucked and did horrible evil things to education, health care, social services) anyway he quit a few months ago and then his party just picks a new leader, again we have no say. The one cool factor about that was we have a female Prime Minster after Mulroney left office, which would have never happened had the public had any say. IP: Logged |
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caladesi Senior Member Posts: 90 |
posted November 23, 2002 01:37 PM
i just wanted to say ken has been watching way too much "maggie and the ferocious beast" my husband and i both actually voted for the first time in our 30 yr. old lives in the last pres election. we both never did before because the electoral college really just screws up the democracy. anyway we felt silly after all the dubya bs that happened (we both voted gore). THEN... my hubby got snagged for jury duty immediately after. man was he pissed for registering in the first place. needless to say when we moved to wa. state we did not register at all. [This message has been edited by caladesi (edited November 23, 2002).] IP: Logged |
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