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sunday's child
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posted June 19, 2001 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunday's child   Click Here to Email sunday's child     Edit/Delete Message
Well, a little political discussion:

Our capital Berlin's got a brand new mayor. He hasn't been elected, but the local government failed in it's financial politics and so the old mayor's been diselected by a vote of no confidencs (I hope, my dictionary talks sense...). New elections are set for september. The only 'problem' about it: The new (socialist) mayor stood there during a speech two weeks ago and said: "Yes, it's true, I'm gay, and actaully it's good like it is!" Now he is mayor, his party stood behind him. But, and that's what I think is simply unbevievable, some people REALLY started a discusion, if it's suitable for our capital to be reigned by a gay man. I admire the strength it took, to have his outing in front of maybe a hundred people and the press, in front of cameras and microphones.

So, is being gay a situation, that disqualfifies one from being the right one for such a position? I just want to know, what you think about that: Is this kind of partial intolerance (I say partial because on the other side this man's got many sympathies) only restricted on Germany? Would it be able for a homosexual man to be a mayor in a city like Washington? Isn't there a lesbian female politician even a senator or governour in th US? Just want to hear your opinion. Cause though I'm not gay myself, I got some good (male and female) friends who are and I become totally upset when somebody tries to discriminate them just because they're in love (the same thing as being discriminated just because your skin clolour differs or you're the wrong sex).

So go on and please reply, I'm looking forward to it!!!

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BrokenG
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posted June 19, 2001 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrokenG   Click Here to Email BrokenG     Edit/Delete Message
Heck no. It's great that he's gay, I mean who you sleep with shouldn't determine if you get a job or not. Look at all the other political screw ups, Bill Cinton(no offense to any supporters of his, I personally dislike him), and people like Hitler. What I mean is a gay person is just as much as capable and inteligent as the next person. No one should be disciminatory against race, religion, or sexuality. Would you rather have a caring bisexual leader, or a straight pompuse loser with a gun under his bed? Well, I'm done rambling for now!
Peace
Jennie

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sunday's child
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posted June 20, 2001 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunday's child   Click Here to Email sunday's child     Edit/Delete Message
...totally agreeing, right on with statememnts like that!!!

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sweetsnail
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posted April 16, 2002 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetsnail   Click Here to Email sweetsnail     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I'm just the queen of old topics today...obviously have nothing better to do than sit here. So, I think both of you were right on. I'm sorry I missed this topic earlier. I don't think it should matter what your sexual preference is. People need to get over themselves if they think it's a problem. The assumption that follows a gay man is that he is more like a woman, and I think that's where people start thinking that gay men are incompetent leaders or whatever. Some people still think women are incapable of being leaders. I think it would be hard for an openly gay politian to run for mayor in some areas, but if you take a place like San Francisco, I think the possibility for election is a lot higher. Anyway, discrimination of any kind isn't cool.
-stephanie

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blue_psyche
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posted April 18, 2002 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue_psyche     Edit/Delete Message
agree wholeheartedly. no matter the sexual preference, what matters is the efficiency and effectiveness of a person to do his/her responsibilities well. i raise my hands in respect to your mayor for being honest and proud of his person.

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bronwen
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posted April 23, 2002 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bronwen   Click Here to Email bronwen     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, there are gay politicians here. Barney Frank, Senator from (I think) Massachusetts has been out for years. Janet Reno, former Attorney General, isn't out (officially) but it's no big secret that she's a lesbian.

I'm sure that there are other governmental positions held by gays & lesbians (mayors, governors, cabinet officials, etc), both in and out of the closet. I don't want to give the impression, though, that America is hugely tolerant when it comes to sexuality. As far as we've come in the last 20 years about accepting alternative sexuality, hatred & bigotry still exist. There are probably many highly qualified gay & lesbian candidates in the US who could not get elected on the basis of who they prefer in bed :-( Consider the policy taken by the last, more liberal, administration on gays in the military. "Don't ask, don't tell." Oh, yeah. Real accepting.

Personally, I don't care what consenting adults do between themselves. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are my mandate.

Bronwen

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sunday's child
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posted April 29, 2002 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunday's child   Click Here to Email sunday's child     Edit/Delete Message
Right on, good talking!

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FunkyFred
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posted April 30, 2002 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FunkyFred   Click Here to Email FunkyFred     Edit/Delete Message
I totally disagree.

Alex, initially I thought you were gay, and you are so incompetent!

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sweetsnail
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posted April 30, 2002 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetsnail   Click Here to Email sweetsnail     Edit/Delete Message
You didn't. You thought he was a girl! hehe. Poor Alex. He should have picked a less androgenous screenname.
-steph

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sunday's child
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posted May 01, 2002 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunday's child   Click Here to Email sunday's child     Edit/Delete Message
Fred's got a pic of me... tell her how totally un-androgenously I am...

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