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Springroz
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posted June 19, 2002 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springroz   Click Here to Email Springroz     Edit/Delete Message
I know the Strokes. Bad typing figures.

I just want to say that i am extremely proud of these three bands. They somehow found a niche amist the boybands and brooding rock. I think its great. I hope a whole slew of these brit influenced solid rock take over the airwaves. Id rather be stuck in traffic listing to Last Nite for the hunderedth time than Staind over and over again. I hope this is the music revolution ive been wating for. I know it starts in baby steps. I sure hope this is it. Quality over Quantity at last?

Do you guys think bands like this will stick? Can the American public appreciate good music like this?

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ericka
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posted June 19, 2002 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ericka   Click Here to Email ericka     Edit/Delete Message
since the popularity of boy bands seems to (slowly) be decreasing, if they keep doing what they're doing, then sure. i don't really consider them the "future" of pop music since they're pretty much past pop music regenerated pretty damn well, but the strokes are doing good right now. selling albums decently, selling out shows... it's all about accessibility.

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BryterLayter77
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posted June 20, 2002 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BryterLayter77   Click Here to Email BryterLayter77     Edit/Delete Message
I would be very careful in generalizing the listening tastes of the American public. If anything, the success of the boy bands, pop princesses, and brooding rock groups had more to do with one major age demographic than it did with the general public as a whole. The spending power of teenagers and "traditional" college students (or their parents)provided the Backstreet Boys, NSync, Britney Spears, Creed, and Limp Bizkit to name a few with the popularity they have. While their popularity has transcended across age groups to a degree, their core fan base has been teenagers and "traditional" college students. Of course, there are teenagers and "traditional" college students who dislike boy bands, pop princesses, and brooding rock groups all together. This, in my opinion, makes generalizing the tastes of any group of people dangerous, but that's just me.

Moreover, I would also be careful in solely pinning accountability on the American public. American fans should be held accountable for making boy bands, pop princesses, and brooding rock groups popular, but they are just as guilty as the European fan base that supports them. Remember, the Backstreet Boys and NSync became popular in Europe before they became popular in the United States. The Backstreet Boys' "As Long As You Love Me" won MTV Europe's select award in 1996-97 (if I'm not mistaken), where viewers were allowed to select favorite videos from a menu on the screen. Furthermore, NSync was popular in Germany, then Europe, and finally in the United States. The success of both groups in the United States made it possible for other boy bands and, to a lesser degree, pop princesses to garner popularity here. Everything seemed to take off from there. In the end, I personally believe that making bad music popular transcends geographical boundries as well, although I will comment that it has a lot to do with how the industry is run today. That's an entirely different can of worms.

With that being said, what is the future of music right now? I personally believe that it will partly depend on how the musical tastes of teenagers and "traditional" college students evolve. Will they start going after more serious music, quality as opposed to mass marketing? Or, will they stay the course? At the same time, the future of music also depends on what today's teenagers and "traditional" college students listen to. They play an integral role in what music is listened to and promoted.

Does this mean we'll get more of the same, or will we get a change in musical trend? In short, is this the revolution that Mari is looking for? It all depends on what one defines as revolutionary. In my opinion, I believe we are headed for a change of musical trends, as opposed to a revolution. I don't see anyone out there right now, outside of Radiohead (and I could be wrong), that could revolutionize music. To me, there's nothing being released right now that will change the way music is made, which would make it a revolution in my eyes.

However, I believe that we are witnessing a shift in musical trends. We can trace this change as far back as mid-to-late-2000 with Radiohead's release of "Kid A," and its follow-up "Amnesiac" in 2001. We can see it in 2001 with releases from Jewel, Travis, Elbow, The Strokes, The Dave Matthews Band, Remy Zero, Duncan Sheik, and Pete Yorn to name a few. This year, Sheryl Crow has released new material, Dave Matthews has new material coming out in July, Coldplay will have a new CD out in August, Duncan has material on the way in October, while Sarah McLachlan will probably have a new CD out in 2003. Consequently, I think the music scene is changing right now, although I wouldn't quite classify it as revolutionary yet.

Just my two cents, I could write more, but I feel as if I just wrote a book.

Richard

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Cici
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posted June 20, 2002 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cici     Edit/Delete Message
soapbox time....

What we have is the unfortunate combination of a large generation of kids with money and their raging hormones that need an outlet. But eventually they'll become more interested in their peers than in Britney Spears... One can only hope.

That being said, I'm optimistic that good music will always be around somewhere (maybe not on the radio though, but somewhere) because of talented, idealistic people who conceive their creative wonders out of an inner need to do so... without any thought of profit margins and demographic and image and all that crap.

...stepping off the soapbox

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MsDMeanor
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posted June 20, 2002 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsDMeanor   Click Here to Email MsDMeanor     Edit/Delete Message
Everything old is new again, at least over here There is an tremendous amount of disco...Car Wash anyone??, and everyone really loves it, which is why I avoid most clubs like the plague...he he he
It won't be long before the UK starts remixing punk, it is on it's way back. Just learned today that Siouxie & The Banshees are reforming, and right now, my hubby is out viewing the Dead Kennedy's in Brighton, minus Jello Biafra. The rest of the band sued him and gave him the boot!!

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Carly522
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posted June 21, 2002 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carly522   Click Here to Email Carly522     Edit/Delete Message
Hey....I remember reading in another mail that you were a fan of Coldplay...Love them..
Have you ever heard of the Orange Peels??
They are really great too...and playing tonight at Maxwell's...only $7, really worth the $$....Anyway, just sharing...
Peace...
C.

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MsDMeanor
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posted June 22, 2002 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsDMeanor   Click Here to Email MsDMeanor     Edit/Delete Message
I haven't heard of the Orange Peels...what is their sound? I thought last week that I didn't know Creed either, but a mate ripped me a mixed cd of treats and there is a track called "My Sacrifice"....not really worth a mention, it is okay(ish) but I wouldn't be rushing to buy the CD or anything...sorry Creed fans!

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Cyndi
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posted June 25, 2002 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cyndi   Click Here to Email Cyndi     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Springroz- since you like The Strokes & The White Stripes, have you heard of B.R.M.C. (Black Rebel Motorcycle Club)? They're pretty cool too. I usually listen to those 3 cd's simultaneously

cyn

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ericka
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posted June 25, 2002 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ericka   Click Here to Email ericka     Edit/Delete Message
I dig BRMC

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Mangotigerlily
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posted June 25, 2002 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mangotigerlily   Click Here to Email Mangotigerlily     Edit/Delete Message
Ok ..... we can only be optimistic about the music scene right now. It is true we good music lovers have been paticently waiting the rise of better music, or rather the popularization of good music. I hope that we are now witnessing the uprise of some. Seeing that I love The Strokes, The White Stripes, and The Hives I love the fact that they are now seeing some of their well earned exposure.

I remember a few years ago, just before the likes of the Backstreet Boys came to fame, there was a great rise in good music after the time spand of hair bands and grunge. These things tend to come in alternating time periods.

Crystal ~~~~++++~~~~

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Springroz
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posted June 25, 2002 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Springroz   Click Here to Email Springroz     Edit/Delete Message
I have heard of BRMC. I like them ok. Not as much as the strokes. But they are not horrible.

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Acoustic Junkie
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posted June 26, 2002 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Acoustic Junkie   Click Here to Email Acoustic Junkie     Edit/Delete Message
I think the Strokes are terrible. They try to hard to be the way they are. The "bad ass" band who think they are in the 70's and open for the velvet underground everynight. All the songs on the CD are too similar and it lacks alot. The White Stripes on the other hand dont fuck around, and kick your ass with their music because they really dont care what people think.

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Aquagirl
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posted June 26, 2002 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquagirl   Click Here to Email Aquagirl     Edit/Delete Message
I love the Strokes. Really nice bunch of guys. Anyways, I also love BRMC. I went to see them when they came here and they were really cool but played for a really short time. Darn them.. Anyways, just wanted to drop in my two cents you know me being nosy and all.

See ya'll later
Aquagirl

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Cyndi
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posted July 31, 2002 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cyndi   Click Here to Email Cyndi     Edit/Delete Message
yeah! saw the vines this past saturday and i'm here to tell you it was gooooooood! the set was a little short and they had problems with one of their amps, but other than that it was great. i think they were on stage for less than an hour, really, very short show. the singer seemed a little wasted and started trashing the stage at the end- seemed like he turned off some of the audience, because some of them left before it was over. but me- i had a great time- very interesting indeed

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Andrew Poe
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posted August 03, 2002 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Andrew Poe   Click Here to Email Andrew Poe     Edit/Delete Message

If you like the Strokes, B.R.M.C., White Stripes, etc., you might like Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Very interesting stuff....a bit out there and non radio friendly and experimental.

I can't wait for the Coldplay and Sheik albums....

Andrew Poe

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aileen
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posted August 03, 2002 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aileen   Click Here to Email aileen     Edit/Delete Message
Don't forget The Vines.

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