I like “deek md”
It is not really appropriate for me to comment on the reviews for White Limo, but I have to say that I do appreciate “deek md’s” take on the “polarization” that seems to be going on with the critical response to the record (you’ll find his post on sheikfreik.com). Even though I didn’t understand why the reactions were so wildly divergent, his post put the reviews into some perspective. And I do need some perspective right about now. Anyway, I may post a more “fun-filled” response to the “bad” reviews soon, but it may take a minute to get to that.
Cheers,
DS
January 25th, 2006 at 2:07 am
Aren’t you feeling the love coming from the people who are buying White Limo and buying the tickets to your shows? Weighted against a few critics who don’t appreciate it, I would hope that has a greater impact.
Not to mention no one with half a brain lets a critic decide who she should or shouldn’t be listening to. Too many cynical people in this country! The ones with less than half a brain wouldn’t be in your fan base anyway. ;)
Have a lovely rest of the evening!
Kimm
January 25th, 2006 at 3:36 am
You know… I can’t help but think of a few lines you put out on Humming back in ‘98. I think you, and everyone here knows what I’m thinking of.
Perhaps the polarization is kinda a mini-stage of what’s playing out within our country. I can’t help but recall election night (eh), and watching the closeness of the votes. What you’ve done with this album is totally walking that line of “for/against” (a.k.a. it?s loved/hated ), ya know? For those who fall left, well. :D For those who fall right, you’re more likely to encounter guff. The things you’re pointing out on this album are going to be really difficult for some people. And some of those people have access to publication (for better or worse).
My only suggestion while entertaining reviews is this:
As long as they don’t attack the actual music, consider the review a success. Lyrics are important, don’t get me wrong. But Duncan, just as a fan who’s aware of all the music you write/produce/etc., words seem to be second for you. I know that this was a leap, challenging people’s way of living/beliefs/etc…. but the music is the core. Just don?t forget that.
I know you’re a smart kid.
I know that you know everything I’ve written above.
And if you feel particularly icky after some review, just remember:
you have many, many people who feel blessed to have your work stuck in their heads. :)
Chin up young one,
Susann
January 25th, 2006 at 7:08 am
“… And half the critics always hate you
So you get horribly depressed…”
Your words.
Don’t waste your time analyzing critics. They’re just that. So, big deal, you hate me… and so what.
You just keep going. Do what you feel. Say what you want to say.
The only thing you should never be, is unfaithful to yourself.
In fact, you never dissapointed me. Not in one lyric, not in one song… never.
My words.
And sorry about my english. I hope you understand…
January 25th, 2006 at 7:36 am
Have a great day regardless Duncan. I know you will.
I’m trying here myself.
BW :)
xo “The World can be rough.”
January 25th, 2006 at 8:30 am
Everyone has an opinion about something. If you write a song that has the power to move people, it’s naive to believe that everyone will be moved in the same direction.
If you aren’t receiving some negative comments and criticisms about your album, it’s not working as well as it should.
January 25th, 2006 at 9:17 am
I haven’t read the sheik freik post, but from what I gather you’re just trying to guage the response, good or bad. Any artiste or creative person would do that. Who’s gonna make something and not care (honestly) about how well or badly it was received. Here in South Africa people are too busy pointing out one anothers differences that they don’t even hear the words sometimes. Anyway, I’m getting a bit carried away here.
I’ve ordered White Limo but won’t receive it for a few weeks. I listened to samples on Rounder.com and it was killer!!! Also they had the full version (for listening only) of “I Wouldn’t Mind” which is incredible.
Hey, i’ll be in NY in late April and I hope you’re playing. That would be
a dream come true, especially if i got to meet you!
Peace, Adi
January 25th, 2006 at 9:23 am
Okay Grasshopper- (I’m going to pull rank on you here because I am older, probably the oldest on this blog…)
You know better than any of us that whatever you do, there will never be a time when 100% of the critics or people will love it. That’s the world. Don’t let the few (and I mean only a FEW) misguided negative comments weigh on you. I have to agree with some of the other folks that have said when the reviewer really spent time listening, the comments were positive. Your work has never been a one pass or one listen encounter and WL is certainly no exception. I’m sure some of these critics don’t have sufficient time/ability to really digest the nuances, and therefore the judgement is rushed.
Look at who is out there now- this superficial, easily digestable sound that was created to please all. The majority of it is very forgettable.
You should be extremely proud of the whole body of your work, I know you are. We are too. The polarization truly does mirror the current administration’s effect on the country. Is that really a bad thing? I’m sure you knew when you wrote this that there would be divergent opinions.
Please don’t dwell on these negative reviews too much. I know you probably feel more like you’re more vested with this one because of producing and recording it on your own.
Remember when someone has a negative reaction, there is always a chance to turn that to a positive one (overcoming their objections and all). When someone has no reaction at all is when you should start to worry.
Hold your head up REALLY high,
don’t question for a minute any aspect of WL,
keep doing what you are moved to do,
and don’t change a thing.
You have people here from other countries that you have impacted with your music who are probably struggling with English to communicate with you. Be proud of this.
We appreciate the efforts and outcome of your work. Many, many others do as well.
Molly
January 25th, 2006 at 11:06 am
I like you too.
Your music inspires, fulfills, embraces…
Some people just cant get engaged, but that doesnt diminish the music.
No need for the funeral dirges.. Focus on how happy you have made so many people, not the few that cant get their heads around this one..
Come wine tasting with us before your Coach House show and soak up the love from your fans.
Doc
January 25th, 2006 at 11:21 am
And furthermore….
(I know this may be a breach of blog etiquette to double post, but forgive me on this one…)
Furthermore, Dunc, this album could only possibly fail if you set out to purposefully create music that appealed instantly to the mass market and its value is measured only by album sales, ala Black Eyed Peas, Ashlee Simpson, etc (not that they are inherently bad, but appeal to a different sensibility…).. If so, we shall see..If not, then your album has already succeeded..
If some brand new online editor for Spin doesnt get your music, that’s on them, not on you (or us).
My life is not complete only because I have your music, but it is a helluva lot better.
January 25th, 2006 at 12:01 pm
hey dunc,
in the words of dr. dre (or ben folds) “bitches ain’t shit.”
don’t listen to critics. i think your music is amazing, and i try to turn as many of my friends onto it as i can. i picked up “white limo” yesterday when it dropped, and i think it is a hot record. it’s thought provoking, and beautiful.
i have been a fan of yours since the first time i heard “barely breathing” way back in the 8th grade.
keep putting out outstanding records, and i, as well as all of your other fans, will continue to love them.
-kevin
January 25th, 2006 at 12:35 pm
People’s musical tastes are as diverse as the ‘Star Wars’ cantina. There’s no possible way to avoid getting some bad opinions.. except maybe going the AC/DC route, making every album basically the same and making sure everyone knows exactly what to expect.
But the fact that we don’t really know what to expect next, the fact that there are depth and dimensions that require time & attention to appreciate - i.e. the reasons some people won’t always appreciate everything - are exactly the same things that make the music worthwhile. If nobody tried new things or continued to put their hearts into making music, there’d be no point in any of us ever buying another CD again.
The important thing is that when you do put your heart into something, there will be always be someone somewhere who will connect with it. And the number of folks posting online who also feel that connection (plus the fact that my GF hasn’t stopped smiling since she bought it yesterday) tells me White Limo is already a success in the ways that matter. I think it’s great.
See you in Philly…
January 25th, 2006 at 1:06 pm
Eh, reviews. Reviews are not just contingent on the ear of the critic, but also their mood. They could have a sh!t morning and hate everything that day. This is why I don’t listen to critics. I’d hate miss something good because I took the word of Ebert & Roeper who didn’t have the right kind of cream for their coffees that morning. Dunc, it boils down to doing music for you. People are fickle, and you never know what’s going to be the next great craze. I’m sure you do write for you, but don’t get caught up in reviews.
~David
January 25th, 2006 at 1:15 pm
Well said everyone! Ditto all that was said above…I don’t want to sound like a broken record and repeat it all. See how loved you are Duncan? And we’re the ones that REALLY matter, ’cause we know good music when we hear it. :D
Laura(loves White Limo)
January 25th, 2006 at 2:25 pm
Duncan,
I’d like to address you directly (seeing as I know you read what we write). Feb 5 is coming up and you are playing at the Casbah in San Diego. I?ve galvanized a group of 20+ people to come and share MY passion for YOUR music.
White limousine is an amazing creation. There is a gentleness to this album that is remarkable. The irony is that you are addressing very real issues that should concern most intelligent people. My perception of the album is that it reflects an internal struggle to make sense of the times we are living in. Relationships, religion, politics are all a part of our daily existence. Art is just an expression of this internal dialogue. I enjoy this music because it masterfully articulates these experiences. The beauty of music is that I can perceive it the way I wish. Who knows it is possible that my perceptions of this album are completely off base.
I am talking to my brother on msn messenger and sending links to the negative reviews. I guess we just have to accept the fact that most people will never get you. Of course most of your fans, including myself, probably don?t fully get you. I?d like to remind you that Nick Drake never experienced popularity until after his appearance on an automobile commercial.
The point is that your music has carved out a niche for itself. You can be disappointed and depressed by the lack of mainstream support. Another way of looking at it is that the individuals who like your music are actually intelligent people with a refined taste. Compare it to your wine tasting if you like. You can chug a glass of wine for the intoxication (the emotional equivalent of pop) or you can savor the delicate intricacies that come with a mature vintage.
I savor your music.
Thank you,
tbj
January 25th, 2006 at 2:35 pm
Sorry to get off topic here, but….where can I find info on the Danbury, CT show? I’m not finding it anywhere.
Thanks,
Laura
January 25th, 2006 at 4:02 pm
Danbury, CT info…
Working on updating the dates page. Sorry about that.
January 25th, 2006 at 4:50 pm
Peter, Duncan, Deek MD… where is the post from Deek about the polarization. Looking for it and can’t find.
Thanks,
David
drak@brick.net
January 25th, 2006 at 5:15 pm
http://sheikfreik.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35171&postcount=26
January 25th, 2006 at 5:27 pm
i want so badly to disagree with the Spin article, but to be honest, the White Limo album is pretty terrible. just kidding.
here comes a euphemism: Spin is not very representative of my musical taste. i would say they suck but they like some music, so they cant be all bad. i dont go to their website very often but i did go to read their review since someone earlier said not to, so of course we all went and read it, right? the review is rather tasteless/uncouth/caustic/unwarranted. after reading it i happened upon their “top 40 albums of 2005″ and vomited in mouth. i cannot respect anyone’s musical opinion who does not include Coldplay’s X&Y in their top 40 albums of 2005. even if you dont like them, hello, i think other people did, so stop with your “we are sweeter than mainstream” attitude and make a good list, not a statement. coldplay dominated the 2005 music scene, so accept it Mr. and Mrs. Spin.
here is a little deductive reasoning for ya:
Spin makes bad lists.
Duncan = good tuneage.
Spin gives Duncan unfavorable review.
henceforth i have drawn the following conclusion:
Spin is not good at rating/evaluating tuneage.
thus further reinforcing that Spin’s review is trash and needs to be taken on the next barge out to the middle of the ocean for dropping.
play on sir, play on.
January 25th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
My respect for duncan comes from his choice to do his own style. He seems to communicate music in an emotional and poignant way. Alot of musicians are very “formula” based. They write or maybe just perform generic songs pop or rock or what have you that are scripted to be played on the radio and not enjoyed by the more in-depth listener. This may not always be the case so I want to be careful to not over generalize or stereotype—-but it my opinion, not to name any names but (lindsey lohan, hilary duff, good charlotte, simple plan, marc broussard, jason mraz (the last two not as much), etc.) These artists in my opinion, play for the radio—-that may be what they truly like to do, and if so fine, but as long as other artists try to not fall into the trap of following in their footsteps and selling their own music short because they want radio play or to be famous. Anyway—there are so many takes on this topic, and I’m not saying I’m right on this, I just respect when a musician does what he wants to do, writes what he wants to write, and plays what he wants to play.
Honestly, I don’t like every song that Duncan has written—I like probably 90 percent of them, although he is still a huge inspiration for my own music, but mainly I respect him because I know that he is his own person. He seems to be genuine, deep, and respecting person who I can, without hesitation, say is a true talented singer/songwriter along the same deep and intelligent lines as the James Taylor’s or Bob Dylan’s. In my mind I put Duncan right up there with those other great songwriters.
So anyway, I’ll see you DS in Park City on the 1st of February—the coolest thing about his show at Club Suede is that I’m playing at the same club two nights prior!
January 25th, 2006 at 5:53 pm
In the nineties one of my favorite artists, Micheal Reznor (Trent) of Nine Inch Nails released his Downward Spiral CD. In my opinion it was an absolute work of art. It recieved a great deal of airplay and generated quite a fuss in the media because of it’s adult language and subject matter.
Mr. Reznor was defamed and accoladed in the media for quite some time. Some of the accolades were almost as insulting to him as the critizisms.
In a later interview he was questioned about the media circus that had sprung up around him and his CD, and the quote that stuck with me was: “I set out to make a CD that people would listen to. Not something that would come and go unnoticed. The fact that people are discussing and debating the CD means that I was sucessful.”
I’m paraphrasing because I don’t remember his exact words, but my point is that people are listening. Taking their precious time to comment and debate about it. It _is_ getting reviews. Good and bad, and people are debating about it.
I believe you make music to be listened to, and not heard. Even though I haven’t been able to hear the entire CD yet, it seems as though you have been sucessful.
People are listening.
ZMC
January 25th, 2006 at 6:11 pm
good comments in response to that so-called review at the spin site!
this may be a bit late, but the Los Angeles Best Buy had White Limosine displayed (under s for sheik) and i was able to buy 2 copies tuesday afternoon, no problem. for what it’s worth, i think the album is great. do i love every minute? no, but then my opinion wouldn’t count for much if i automatically thought every ds note and word was perfect.
AND the troubadour was playing the WHOLE ALBUM before the josh rouse show last night (great show, by the way). can’t wait to hear ds songs new and old there next week.
will there be no wine tastings in l.a.? i see a wine tasting is announced for the week after the southern cal. shows. . .
p.s. Diego, thanks for your reply. hope you’re enjoying your “move for love.”
January 25th, 2006 at 8:14 pm
One of my friends has a favorite saying that I think applies here,
“Opinions are like belly buttons…everybody has one!”
While we don’t always agree with everyone’s opinion, (like that Spin “critic”) that’s why it’s nice to have an arena, like this among others, where we can voice our own opinions about the CD or anything else.
Although I must admit, I never actually read the Spin review. Hearing the comments made about it at sheikfreik was enough for me to see that I didn’t really want to read it. From what I got from the sheikfreik posts, the Spin “critic” seems pretty ignorant about Duncan and his music.
I did read one somewhat negative review, which is why I’m going to give David Browne my opinion about his C+ review of White Limousine in Entertainment Weekly. (And they’ve been so nice in the past!)
Don’t let the critics get you down. Unlike those critics, who get the music for free and get paid for writing their comments about it, we, your loyal fans, happily pay for the privilege to listen to your beautiful music and offer our praises and comments freely.
Two more weeks….I can’t wait!!!
:) -Tammy
January 25th, 2006 at 10:07 pm
Has anyone downloaded the record off of ITUNES yet?
It finally posted on the site today.
The song “edits” are running into one another IE if you click on “White Limousine” you are still in the middle of the second track.
“White Limousine” starts at 23 seconds into “I Don’t Believe in Ghosts”
Wierd. It is either the file edits or itunes. Anyone have this trouble? I still have yet to see the record on Rhapsody… I just bought two records and Duncan’s is the only one doing this…
-m
January 25th, 2006 at 11:27 pm
I have not read the reviews, I generally do not even pay any attention to reviews as I will see something like Blink 182 or Linkin Park get 3+ stars, and an artist I love get something like 2. Please please PLEASE do not let any bad reviews get to you. I am enjoying it SO much. I really think it is wonderful. I am not going to lie and say I love the entire CD start to finish. I LIKE the entire CD start to finish, but I don’t think I LOVE every single song on it (it is, of course, too soon to tell).
Screw the reviews, Duncan. A man of your intelligence should know to ignore them. For starters, they are subjective, so what Mr. Rolling Stone has to say may be contrary to what every single person who buys your CD thinks. Anyway, even though I may not absolutely love every single song, I really do think it is artful and beautiful. Your lyrics are as smooth and direct as ever. I find the music to be less “pop” than “Daylight” and less “mellow” than your earlier CDs. It is a marriage of sorts.
I think that, if this really affects your music and your career and your life, I will not be the only one surprised. You’re the guy who kept making music after everyone called him a one-hit wonder. You’re the guy who made a successful music career for himself after that. You’re the guy who, even though he knows people expect him to play his “hit” at a concert, will play everything but. Please feel better. If you don’t, I’d have to change my whole concept of you.
- Russell
January 25th, 2006 at 11:30 pm
Oh, and I just saw your reply in the previous post. I live in White Plains, NY. I went to Sam Goody & it was closed (where I used to work… sigh), then I went to a store called Music Plus Movies, then I went to Barnes & Noble (which had “Phantom Moon,” but not “White Limousine” *boggle*, and finally to Circuit City, which had it.
- Russell
January 26th, 2006 at 2:22 am
Thank you so much much for a wonderful show at the Tea Room. You fought through the technical difficulties and wowed the crowd. You’re very humble and your openness with your fans really does make a huge difference. Leverisa, thanks for being so friendly and making those of us who came to the wine tasting and sound check feel at home. All the best to the band, crew and ds management. It was a great concert and a memory i will carry with me for a long time.
Keith
January 26th, 2006 at 5:08 am
So it’s 4 in the morning. I am listening to your entire collection on random…”out of order” is playing at the moment. I get on a plane in 12 hours to fly to Austin to see you at the Cactus Cafe.
You are one of those artists that has stayed with me through a million flavor of the week bands. There is a timeless quality to your music that hinders it from being instantly accessible. It has so many intricacies that one must listen again and again to fully realize your songs. It is because of this that your music appeals to a very specific group. I would like to call them music “snobs”. Your music is way to intelligient for the mass music culture of the current climate…which is why snobs like me are in love with your music. You offer a completely fresh, honest approach to a song. Thank God for that. Your new album says so much about the world at large and then on a dime speaks of the simplicity of single thought. Look at negative reviews through those who appreciate your art and you will see the positive…you are making people think, and that in itself says more than anything.
-Jacoby
January 26th, 2006 at 7:41 am
Thanks so much for the info Peter. :) Hooray! I may just be able to make a show on this tour!
Ooh, one more thing about the bad reviews…I think it’s important to keep in mind that this is only ONE person’s opinion. I know that’s sometimes difficult to do when you see it all “official-like” in writing, but seriously, this one person could have horrible taste in music. Maybe Britney is their favorite artist(or something along those lines), so of course they won’t “get” White Limo. Take any artist, there will always be those who like the music, and those who don’t. Too bad some of these reviewers couldn’t listen with more of an open mind though, even if it’s not their type of music. I think if they did, they’d hear all of the layers and appreciate the quality of the music a little more.
Laura
January 26th, 2006 at 9:23 am
“One of my friends has a favorite saying that I think applies here,
Opinions are like belly buttonseverybody has one!”
- I was born without a belly button
January 26th, 2006 at 11:10 am
Dear Duncan,
I know I’m not on topic but I can’t figure out how to get this to you - if you are interested. I met you down in Tulum, shocked Ms Baby Dior that I knew your music so well and have some cool pics of you and the bootcamp gang on the beach in Mexico. Let me if I can or how to attach an email picture file. I’m not much of an internet person and have never visited a blog before so forgive my incompetence or lack of etiquette.
Otherwise I’m coming to your show at the Bluebird in Denver and will bring the pics along (just in case) :-). Now that the new CD is out I’ll be bopping down to my local indie dealer (Twist and Shout) and picking up a copy tomorrow!
Heidi
January 26th, 2006 at 2:46 pm
Hey Duncan,
We met at the Little Rock gig, and the show was FABULOUS (despite the drunk woman interrupting your songs with her requestswhat was UP with that?) The new songs played just as well as the ones from the other four albums that I know and love already. I hope that being on the road and all this fan talk has improved your perspective, but just in case, I have these observations about critics:
First, it is easier to tear something down than it is to create something, especially something honest and brave that takes a stand, whether political or regarding love and life. Your music has always been honest and brave and interesting. Anyway, if these critics really had something important to say, they?d be writing their own d***ed music, right?
Second, and this can go for some fans too, people seem to resent when an artist?s style changes and develops over time. Some of your music is stark, some is lush, some is frustrated, and some is haunting. There are examples of all these moods, in all your albums, that are amazingly beautiful and satisfying, but they satisfy in different ways. If people are looking for Barely Breathing over and over, they aren?t going to get all this diversity. Just remember that you are allowed to grow, to try new things; you wouldn?t be much of an artist if you didn?t. I hope enough of us are coming along with you that you stay satisfied too
With appreciation,
Elizabeth
January 26th, 2006 at 8:46 pm
I do have to wonder if some of the people who reviewed the CD actually listened to the album. And seriously, how can you write a good review of an album that is only two paragraphs long?
I was wondering about that software that is needed to do the track mixes. Is it Mac compatible?
I think you may have steered right into the path of the religious right, which is fine. This country protects freedom of speech, and if they don’t like what you’re saying, they don’t have to by the CD. Or they can do what those whackjobs did to the Dixie Chicks and buy your CD just so they can run it over with a steamroller. What do you care as long as you get the royalties?
Carly
January 26th, 2006 at 11:01 pm
AOL has a full cd listening party right now of White Limo and I personally am digging it…Have listened to the entire cd 12 times today…
The whole cd is wonderful , being a long time fan this isn’t a surprise to me :O)…Screw the critics , sing from your heart and your fans will “get it”…
I know this post isn’t all intellectual and the like but it’s sincere…
January 26th, 2006 at 11:12 pm
I just purchased my legal copy of White Limousine from Best Buy (Loma Linda, CA). The DVD is absolutely rocking my world. Jeff… you dirty bass magoo! I love being able to take apart the music and appreciate all of the elements. Thank you for this gift.
tbj
January 27th, 2006 at 11:38 am
I’ve been listening to this album all week now and work and everytime I get in my car. I LOVE it!! I think it’s your best since ‘Humming.’ I love ‘Phantom Moon’ and ‘Daylight’ a lot, but overall I think it’s your best since ‘Humming.’ I just wish that ‘The Aftermath’ and ‘Until’ made it to the album. Even though they are B-Sides, they are 2 of my favorite songs you’ve done. Keep up all the great work. I’ve been listening for 10 years now and I still haven’t been let down by anything you’ve done. I can’t say that about anyone else.
Josh
P.S. - I loved ‘Fantastic Toys’ on the EP, but the album version is amazing. I love the work that you and Simon Hale do together.
January 27th, 2006 at 6:12 pm
I read a wonderful review. If you load up the “Mine” CD to listen to on your computer and your Media Player pops up, click on View Album Info. It will pull up a review provided by AMG. It really goes into some great detail, and sounds like an intelligent review. I would post a link, but can’t and can’t copy and paste it here. But hopefully some of you, DS included can read it. It is a very complimentary and seems unbiased.
Keith
January 27th, 2006 at 6:14 pm
Retyping that last sentence: It is very complimentary and seems unbiased.
January 27th, 2006 at 6:36 pm
You can read the AMG review here.
January 27th, 2006 at 9:19 pm
White Limo is Wonderful. Don’t let anyone tell you any other way DS. Has anyone seen the People Mag. review, it was Great.
January 27th, 2006 at 11:15 pm
Thanks for placing a link to the review..i hope a lot more people are able to view it now…thanks peter….you did what i wanted to do…appreciate it much…..
Keith
January 28th, 2006 at 12:28 am
i posted this article on sheikfreik, but wanted to make sure everyone got to see it. It was a review from Duncan’s show in Dallas. I’ll post the link here, in hope others will view it…..I am starting to turn into a regular blogger on here..watch out!
http://www.guidelive.com/sharedcontent/dws/ent/music/stories/DN-sheik_0127gl.ART.State.Edition2.1db69002.html
Keith
January 28th, 2006 at 7:44 am
Thank you kaustin. Excellent review. *thumbs up* Makes me wish I had been there. :)
Laura
January 28th, 2006 at 11:45 am
…and now, for something completely off topic.
Hey Duncan,
I heard Shopping on the radio the other day and was riveted. I just stood there with my cheek against the open refrigerator door for about a full minute before I realized what I was doing. Then I went and sat down ?g totally forgetting why I had gotten up to begin with. Sometimes when I hear to your music I feel I am in the presence of an old friend, someone I have known for lifetimes. Here on DS.com however, it?s more like being the one kid on the playground none of the other kids knows what to make of.
After I heard you on Free at Noon that day I thought it would be fun to come here and hang out. I felt compelled to try to make contact in a way I can only explain here as that I knew I would regret not doing so and wonder what would have happened if I had. Since I generally don?t feel compelled to do much of anything besides sleep and drink a lot of coffee (depression is my decades-long nemesis), I decided to forge ahead.
I?ve felt a bit silly at times. (I have been aware at each moment that I?ve been acting a bit like a twelve year old). Although the experience has defied my worst expectations ; ), one thing I don?t feel is regret. The entire process has been extremely, ummm, enlightening. I thought I recognized you as someone who could speak my language, and meeting someone who speaks Kim almost like a native is such a rare occurrence, I thought it would be worth feeling (and I assume looking) like kind of an idiot in order to find out. I have, unfortunately, done so for far less.
The point I?m coming to is that you?re off the hook. There will be no (further) escalation tactics. There may be a Grandmaster Alvin version of Shopping in the future, but you will be spared hearing it. I wanted to make contact, and I think I have, so unless I hear from you, maybe I?ll see you next lifetime. In the meantime, don?t let the eight winds blow you out of Kansas. As for myself, I?m off to see the Buddha ?g the wonderful Buddha inside.
Your friend,
Kim
PS — Gut wrenching sincerity is about the most potent escalation tactic in my arsenal. I find it either allows others to feel safe enough to approach or scares them into retreat or open attack. That pretty much sums up my perspective on your bipolar reviews, so maybe I?m not completely off topic. Anyway, I can?t understand how a disciple of Daisaku Ikeda could be confused that challenging people?s beliefs might garner some resistance. That earns you a virtual-dope smack which is given affectionately and is, therefore, non-violent. Besides, I don?t think it?s your mission to get good reviews. I think it is more so to touch people?s lives with your music, and I still think you are doing an amazing job. BTW, terrific interview on World Caf?. Anyone who missed it can check it out here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5175461.
January 28th, 2006 at 3:56 pm
Well, well, well my Dear Mr. Sheik
Spent some time reading those reviews, and well. At first I was going to type some mean people suck type of rant but have decided to cool off.
I am honestly surprised to read those reviews (to some degree), because I really enjoy and love White Limousine. Now, I say to some degree because I did foresaw some trouble ahead in its reception (and come on, I?m sure you knew this was coming too ?gright?).
You want perspective on why some critics are reacting the way they did? Well, first of all, your album touches some issues that make people uncomfortable. Taking-a-stab-at the status quo with a firm tongue-in-cheek is not easy. And once done, people will always complaint that it wasn?t enough or it was too much. But if you get a reaction; weather is good, bad, or all over the place; then you know you?re doing something good. When something makes us uncomfortable is usually because is making us feel/think something different to what we are used to, and sometimes people need that. Better to get a reaction than to get a blank stare, don?t you think? Then, as second and at its core on why you?re getting these reactions from critics: well, listen to your discography starting with your first CD all the way up to WL -and I know you know what I?m talking about in here: Your music has changed, evolved. It has become more mature, who you are, what you believe in and stand for. And please note that I don?t mean that your music was better before, but that for what you?ve said and expressed in the past, that your current music is following the direction you want to pursue. And well, getting off the beaten path is not always popular, but isn?t fun and exciting, though? Still scary, but what isn?t scary this days? :D
Now, last but not least, last time I checked in the dictionary, Criticism is the art of criticizing ?gspecially adversely. It is about analyzing, classifying, interpreting, or evaluating literary or other artistic works. This means that they will always look for something to pick on. What to do with it? Try to see where they are coming from, from their own perspective. And in second, if there is something they said that actually raises an issue you wanna challenge, then do it! Is all about growing, baby. And only by getting feedback ?gweather good or bad - will you know if you are actually doing what you set yourself to do in the beginning AND will help you decide where to go next. But if you?re looking just for acceptance, acknowledgement and confirmation well, I think the critic?s reviews are the wrong place for it. Of course, music is ultimately nowadays a business, so there is some responsibility that needs to be taken when one puts its work out there to compete with the masses of what is considered popular or not. What ultimately counts is that, if you can go to bed at night with your mind at ease and your integrity intact, then whatever people might say or disagree with you does not matter in the end. In all, I think you should be DAMN proud of your work. Don?t become hesitant because of this reaction, if anything, just give them back something to talk about ;)
Sorry if this is long and grammatically incorrect, it is my thing I guess ?goops!
Best of luck with the tour. See ya? soon! :)
January 29th, 2006 at 10:19 am
Duncan,
Don’t let the critics get you down. I am also very politically involved and I have come to realize that some people just do not want to hear what you have to say. If your lyrics challenged those critics in any way, that probably affected their evaluation. Don’t sweat it. Intelligent, thought-provoking lyrics are too much for most critics in this day in age of contrived pop ruling the billboard top 100. White Limo is a great album and one of which you should be proud, musically and lyrically. I just missed you in Dallas. I hope you come back soon.
January 30th, 2006 at 3:55 pm
I am incredibly outraged at Spin’s review. First off, the review serves as much of a purpose to a music listener as does Jerry Springer for the mindful. His remarks only can serve as a resume builder for a one-day hope of working at the Inquirer. It shares absolutely no insight to the musical understanding of the record, nor the reviewer’s own musical understanding. When a main criticism of a record is its lyrical ambiguity, one asks what he expects from art. He might as well be the reviewer of a political journal for his depth of understanding and his narrow passion for literalism. Absolutely disrespectful and uncalled for.
January 31st, 2006 at 2:49 am
Duncan,
Since the release of your first cd, you’ve been my favorite musician. I felt such an instant, soulful connection to your work…..and it’s intensified with WL. What an amazing work of art! I’m so moved by the whole cd. The Dawn’s Request is my favorite piece because of the raw emotion, soaring strings, and the lyrics that capture the depths of despair followed by redemption. I can relate to it through my struggles with depression.
I also am deeply touched by Nothing Fades. My father is losing a battle with cancer, and this song articulates what I already feel in my heart…. that we are spirits that never die. This song is so thought provoking and mystical. I can’t stop listening to the lyrics over and over. I find such peace and understanding….thank you.
I love the dulcimer in I Dont Believe In Ghosts. It gives the song a haunting, oriental quality that’s so unique. I’m also haunted at the moment from a failed love that I thought would last forever, so this song really touches my soul.
As the mother of three sons (and one daughter) the song Fantastic Toys And Corduroys brought me to tears. My sons are not as verbal as my daughter, yet I know their love for me is the same. What a beautiful tribute to your mother. She must be a truly spiritual and wonderful woman to raise someone as talented, spiritual, intelligent, altruistic, socially and politically aware as you.
On the negative reviews, I view it like politics. Some people just don’t “get” it. My daughter who is fifteen, has been a fan of yours since Barely Breathing. She is also a musician/artist/poet, so she can appreciate true works of art (like WL) even at her young age. I like that you aren’t mainstream. Your music is so unique. You have a beautifully smooth, resonate voice that never fails to move me. You play with great feel, and I love the songs that include a string section. You’re truly a gifted poet, and that’s also part of the hook for me.
Thank you for touching my life with your music. You are a blessing.
L
February 1st, 2006 at 7:21 pm
i want to give my response the proper time … dude screw the critics! that is already time wasted ;)
i cant wait to see you tonight at suede in park city! what a great end to the sundance film festival.
February 2nd, 2006 at 12:50 pm
I have to say, I think I just posted a very nice response to the Spin review. Turns out Ms. Jessica used to write for Salon, in the sex department. Ha.
February 2nd, 2006 at 5:38 pm
Dear Duncan,
Don’t sweat it, buddy - people that like real music don’t care about Spin. From a quick google search I found another review for a band called Hockey Night:
http://www.spin.com/features/band_of_the_day/2005/07/050713_hockeynight/
And as I suspected, this person likes music which is pretty much the opposite of what you play. I’ll save you the trouble of looking up this band, I’m listening to them on Rhapsody, and they are a mix of Velvet Underground and Pavement. Sort of the type of band that plays real loose (in tempo and pitch) because they think it’s cool. Oh, and they follow that new trend of sounding like a 70’s garage band.
Here’s the last line I just heard:
” Girl talk / bike lock / on a Saturday night. Keep clapping your hands.”
And that’s cool, I like VU, this isn’t an awful band - but I find Hocky Night boring, undeveloped, derivative, and just plain sloppy. That’s just me.
WL is fairly subtle, so it makes sense that these types of “rock for the sake of rock” people miss it. I’m a huge fan of your music, but my first listen was in the car on the freeway, and I wasn’t immediately drawn in. When I listened on my stereo and gave it some time though, I found it a really engaging, subtle, and wonderful record.
And thanks again for giving out individual tracks. I hope to make a version of WL that is at least a little inspiring for you…
February 8th, 2006 at 10:13 am
a little late with this post, but figured i would make it anyway. man, the show at the gypsy tea room in dallas was rough. thanks for fighting thru it and playing “End of Outside”. great tune. i thought the best song of the night was “Genius”, by far.
February 9th, 2006 at 12:45 pm
Duncan,
I know people have been throwing their 2 cents in…so here’s mine. When the new album came out I purposefully did not listen to it so as to make honest mixes of the “Yours” DVD with no point of reference to what you actually did. I finished the first track and I have to say the vocal is staggeringly beautiful and I believe releasing raw tracks for fans to remix is what Rundgren and Gabriel had intended to do years ago but just couldn’t get it right. Will there be a place to upload our versions?
Also as far as the neg reviews..remember “Pet Sounds was not likd when it came out and it’s a masterpiece.
February 27th, 2006 at 4:38 am
I’m probably very late in leaving my comment here, but nevermind.
You make beautiful music, man. I love all you albums, but “Phantom Moon” has been one of my favourite albums ever since it came out. “White Limousine” follows that same mood, and I am so happy that it does. It is such a great record. And I’m so glad you released the White Limo “b-sides” here on the site. In my book, they deserve a place on the actual record. “An evening’s entertainment” is a classic. Every time I hear it, I manage to shut the world out. It reminds me of “Any day now” from the first Elbow record.
Please don’t stop making records like “Phantom…” and “White Limo”. They are beautiful records, and the world of music need their kind.
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