The Cat’s Out of the Bag …

Well, I guess I should just go ahead and let you know about what we’re planning for the DVD that will accompany the White Limousine CD. Here is my explanation that was sent out to the press …

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A word about the White Limousine companion DVD.

While I was on tour promoting my last album, the very nice people at M-Audio gave me a copy of a piece of software called Reason. Though I had played around with it’s predecessor, Rebirth, Reason is a far more versatile tool (kind of a virtual rack of synths and samplers on your laptop) and I started to think about how it might inform the songwriting process for my next record. Once I had come up with a couple of dozen musical ideas using Reason, I thought I might make a record where the entire arrangement for the songs (except for a vocal and an acoustic guitar) would be generated in Reason. This was going to be my version of the minimalist, electronica, singer-songwriter record. My next thought was that I could release the Reason files along with the CD so that anyone could remix the songs however they wanted to.

I started to make my record this way but to make a long and winding creative process short, I ended up re-doing the record with my band as four human musicians playing in a room together with a great engineer. I think that as much as I love electronic music, I was kind of afraid of committing to a record that’s mainly programming. But I still very much liked the idea of releasing the record in such a way that anyone could remix the songs or create new music from the constituent parts of those songs. Luckily, the folks at M-Audio had also given me a copy of software called Live which, because it deals with pre-recorded audio as well as midi, would be an ideal way to release the record in a format such that it can be remixed and messed with in any imaginable way. When you open up a given song in Live, all the individual parts will be separated out so that they can be muted, soloed or altered. This is not a new idea. Peter Gabriel did a 4-track version of it for his record Us, Brian Eno talks about it in his book/diary A Year With Swollen Appendices, I hear Todd Rundgren did something conceptually similar a while back, and, very recently, Nine Inch Nails have released some of their songs in Garage Band format.

So, all that being said, White Limousine will be released with two discs. A normal CD labeled mine with the twelve songs, and a DVD labeled yours with an installable version of Live software and all twelve songs set up in Live so that they can be remixed.

In this way, maybe someone will actually make the minimalist electronica version of White Limousine that I was afraid to realize - personally, that is what I hope. But, of course, there are countless other types of versions of these songs that one might attempt and I’m genuinely interested in what other people do with this material. Also, I plan to set up a web site where people can post their remixes and listen to what others have done. I’m not really sure how these songs might evolve - and I think it is that uncertainty that I like most about this process.

85 Responses to “The Cat’s Out of the Bag …”

  1. Bonz0 Says:

    Leaving your song open to be remixed by listeners is a pretty innovative idea, sould be fun.

    What kind of tone/mood are you going for with the new album? esp. since you switched back to in-studio/live instruments. instead of going with the processed sounds.

    Also diggin the ‘mine’ / ‘yours’ concept.

    -Cory
    Fellow musician…well im trying. heh.

  2. Tansy Says:

    So again, I reiterate:

    Duncan, you seriously kick ass…
    I think they might name a karate kick after you. Really.

    Thank you for making it something reciprocal.
    Or well, potentially.

    :sigh: You fabulous music person, you.

    gross liebe,
    Susann

  3. fallingman Says:

    Hey Duncan,
    This is my first post….I had to….This is the coolest thing ever. I cannot wait to check it out! Thanks so much!
    ~Julian F.

  4. blackwuzzy Says:

    Hmmmmmm Duncan. Finally, something I can play with. Maybe I can finally come up with some very cool material, based upon your concepts.

    My wish, is to someday write and play my own Music. This tool should help in the meanwhile. Thanks Duncan.

    Much love and a peaceful night,

    Michele :)

    XO

    PS..Julian….Where have you been Man. Glad your BACK!!!!!!!! - love…. :)

  5. blackwuzzy Says:

    D,

    Forgot to say again, Your the Best!!!!!

  6. Wayso Jayso Says:

    Duncan, you still and always will totally rock my face off. Great idea. Can’t wait for the new CD to drop.

    P.S. - The picture we got together in Chicago didn’t turn out. Bad film or something. I was crushed. Ah well, I hope I can catch you on tour again.

  7. daddyonthedell Says:

    Duncan, I wish you could give us more insight into when this album will eventually materialize. I have burned a hole in the White Limo B-sides, and have even rallied other fans to retreive your additional unheard of material, such as ” Now or Never ” ( a personal favorite, though I hear you never were happy with the recording itself). The ability to remix the album is fun, but I have slight issue with tampering with an artists’ creative process…the way you have recorded the songs are the way you intended them to be heard, and sometimes the interpretations of others can be disturbing. However, its a neat concept, and im never opposed to trying something different. Thanks for keeping at it all of these years.

  8. FullSwingActor Says:

    D-

    Lovin’ it! So, is street still January-ish on WL? What are the masterminds going to set the list price at now that it includes the DVD?? Either way, it’s gonna be cool to have it out there.
    I can probably speak for everyone on here, but we’d love to see a “real” DVD from you. Some concert footage, videos, behind the scenes, ya’ know the basic goodies… You know I’ll be there to help you shoot it/edit it if you need me. Good seeing you here in Portland awhile ago. Hope to see ya’ in the NW for the “White Limo” tour (not just for the pre-WL).

    Take care,
    Craig M. Johnson

  9. vismajor Says:

    I’m looking forward to “White Limousine” now more than ever. Thanks, Duncan.

  10. adishannon Says:

    One of the things I have always admired about you is how you never seen to have anything to prove. Not many artistes would allow people to have that kind of insight into their work, but you seem intrigued by the possibilities. I think back to how amazed I was when Phantom Moon came out because of the collaboration (you and Sater) and it really opened my mind to new things creatively. I’m sure this record will do the same as do all your albums.
    Peace

  11. Topaz Says:

    Such a fun idea! And it’ll be very cool to hear what everyone does with it….I love the idea of a site to post the remixes.

    Laura

  12. matthias2 Says:

    Duncan,

    Great concept! I’m looking forward to playing engineer with your new record. The software sounds interesting. It’s great of you to share your individual tracks with the rest of us to remix. I can’t wait to see all the creativity that is spawns on your remix website.

  13. russelld Says:

    That is AWESOME! I am (even more) excited for this record, now! A thought: Perhaps you could set something up via the member’s only area to view the tracks people create and possibly release another CD with your favorite remixes. I’d buy it.

    But, regardless, thanks for this. You rock more with every blog.

    - Russell

  14. Mercgurl Says:

    I second Russell’s idea… I’d totally buy that remix CD.

    I remember reading the blurb on Rounder’s website about the yours/mine concept of WL last night… now I’m more than psyched to snag the album when it comes out. I hope we can do you proud with whatever we as fans come up with for remixes.

    The Live software is compatible with Mac I hope? (I own a Powerbook with Mac OSX.)

    I’ll be enjoying the WL limited edition CD (which I put on my iPod) till then. Yay. ^_^

    Catherine

    P.S. I also agree with Craig about putting out a DVD with concert footage, videos and other stuff. I’ve got a few of your music videos on tape (back when VH1 still played mostly music videos and I bothered to record them). And recently my husband rented some pop music video DVD, and Barely Breathing was on it. It’d be nice to at least get more of that stuff on DVD.

  15. leveriza Says:

    Well, “never cease to amaze…” very much looking forward to the new/improved record release… :-) BTW, for the folks who do not visit the Sheik Freik site…Duncan partnered with a new record label—>Rounder Records Group.
    Do check the site www.rounder.com for more information on “White Limousine” loads of information there regarding his upcoming cd(just in case you missed the FYI postcard floating around during the tour) :-)

    Best of Luck with everything, DS…

    HnK,
    Leveriza

  16. Niels Says:

    i think it is a very brave thing you are doing, and i applaud you Duncan. something very different to include in i guess what would be “bonus features”. i like it.

    i also like the idea of either you throwing together a few of your favorite mixes. maybe you could have an area where people can vote on their favorite, or rate each mix. think of the possibilities….

    niels

  17. nathanfooism Says:

    i think what your doing is by far one of the coolest things ever. your going to make DJs out of us all.

  18. Afterall Says:

    Is the “Live” software something you would purchase separatly, or is it on the DVD/CD you are distributing?

  19. Celandine Says:

    As if I wasn’t anxiously anticipating the arrival of White Limousine enough already! What an AMAZING idea! By far, the most brilliant thing I’ve ever heard any musician come up with! Figures that you’re the one to do it! :)
    (I am SO glad that we finally have a DVD-rom on this computer now!)
    You continue to impress and amaze me with your ideas and talents!

    :) -Tammy

  20. blackwuzzy Says:

    Duncan,

    I wanted to tell you last evening….

    Thanks ever so much for the Inspiration which you give each and everyday to us all…..

    You know the rest,

    Michele :) Love….

  21. stasis Says:

    I’m not one for hyperbole but… this is the greatest idea in the history of mankind.

    As a huge fan of Live already and a DJ in my own right, I can’t wait to get my hands on the CD/DVD.

    ps. The EP is excellent >:]

  22. jaxtonypiper Says:

    The news about this album just seems to be getting as close to Uphoria as it possibly can. Not only a new CD, but also a DVD?

    Awesome news! That sound you hear is me applauding my decision to be a Duncan fan.

    Duncan, you so rock.

  23. mrchess Says:

    That is so very Cool. Thanks Duncan for doing this. I can’t wait. I just bought the Maudio Black Box so I have demo version of Live. Still working on leaning it though. You Rock Man. Thanks Again!!

  24. ILoveChomsky Says:

    Wow, what an incredible idea! Thank you so very much, Duncan.

    I just have a question: will the record option be working on the version of the software included in the DVD so that we can add our own extra layers?

    This is amazing. You are awesome.

    Cheers,
    Maria

  25. Sliver025 Says:

    I would join in the parade but… no, i will join in the parade. That is probably the most awesome idea i have ever heard. I doubt i will use it, because that is not where my talents lie, but it is still pretty cool.

  26. JoelCeballos Says:

    That’s fucking tight!

  27. clarabelle Says:

    Like most everyone else….I think this is a innovative, great idea! And I love that you are excited to hear other people’s take, and want to hear their mixes…talk about connecting with your listeners….you take the cake!
    I am looking forward to messing around with it a bit….

    best wishes….clara

  28. keyboardplaya Says:

    Duncan, you just increased my respect for your work ten-fold. :)

  29. onahigh Says:

    Wow, I am really looking forward to the White Limousine now. It might just never come out of the CD player!

  30. vismajor Says:

    Mercgurl: Assuming I found the correct product on M-Audio’s site, Live should be Mac-compatible.

  31. Mercgurl Says:

    vismajor, thanks for the info… I can’t wait to work with Live once WL comes out. :)

    Cheers,
    Catherine

  32. the_optimist Says:

    i can finally have my white limousine RAVE!

  33. Tramaine Says:

    interesting…

  34. CaitlinMoJo Says:

    What an excellent idea Duncan! Espically for those of us who are very much into music but don’t play any instruments.

    Garbage did a similar thing when they released “Beautiful Garbage” a few years ago, except there’s was the tracks of the song chopped up into samples. They held a contest for the best remix where the people visiting the site could vote. There were some very excellent remixes there that I still listen to.

    Can’t wait to try out the software on your music… Sooooo excited for something new from you!

  35. the bets Says:

    It feels like christmas!!! This is going to be so much fun!!!!

  36. Tina Says:

    That sounds so cool, duncan! I can’t wait! :)

  37. ThinkInRainbows Says:

    NAM-myoho-renge-kyo brother. =} Taste the Rainbow

  38. noripink Says:

    i’m happily anticipating the album release in january and i can’t wait to find out the new tour dates. will DP be joining you again?

    (and yea! the propositions were defeated in california!)

    an early happy thanksgiving to all.

  39. monicamoo Says:

    Sorry to hear you gave into your fears.

  40. blackwuzzy Says:

    What????

    That does not seem to make sense????

    I don’t think Duncan is fearful of anything being the Buddhist he is., as am I.

  41. kandi Says:

    Happy Birthday Duncan
    Close your eyes, Make a wish…

  42. russelld Says:

    “I was kind of afraid of committing to a record that?s mainly ‘programming’”…

    Buddhists can be afraid of things. It usually raises the issue of desire (IE. desire to not be afraid anymore), but most Buddhists are working towards not feeling desire and are not actually there.

    I do not quite have the dedication to be a total Buddhist, but I am very much invested in the tenets and philosophies. I am curious, what makes you say that Buddhists cannot be fearful of anything?

    - Russell

  43. russelld Says:

    Ah yes, it appears a “Happy Birthday” is in order! Hope your day is great, Duncan!

  44. Maven Says:

    WOW. I can?Lt wait to grab mine. By the way, just listened to White Limousine?Ls Nothing Fades song avaiable on streaming, way to go Duncan. Very nice song, loved the “stretched guitars” on the background, they?Lre so like your style and yet, always refreshing. Cheers from Brazil.

  45. Maven Says:

    Hehehehe… forgot to ask two really important things.
    1- Are you planning to tour in Brazil?
    2- Will your music videos be featured on this DVD?

    Thanks!

  46. Tansy Says:

    I suppose since there are others who’ve already done it, I’ll do it too.

    Have a wonderful birthday Duncan.
    Your impact in the world, spans more and more each day-
    the beauty and the calm that you bring is irreplaceable.
    Thank you. (and to your parents ;D )
    We all love what you’ve done with the last 36 years,
    I’m sure that won’t change as you embark into the future.
    Ears will alway be perked for you, Duncan. :)

    Okay. Enough seriousness.
    Eat cake!
    Susann

  47. GiaGrace Says:

    Happy Birthday Duncan!
    I hope you have a great day today and everyday for the rest of your life! Your fans love you, especially me. You’re a lucky man.
    Love You Always,
    Gia

  48. ecstasia Says:

    I love the mine / yours concept!

    Also I wanted to wish you a happy birthday! I hope that you have a wonderful birthday =) I had planned on sending a gift before your birthday but am only adding the finishing touches tonight so it will be late. Better late than never right?

    Melissa (Lissi)

  49. JoelCeballos Says:

    Happy Birthday from The Brothers Ceballos!!

  50. blackwuzzy Says:

    Dear Duncan,

    Did you ever figure out what you want from Amsterdam? I think maybe a Print. Van Gogh or Rembrandt? Must I use my own judgement, I shall get both, :) :) though I lean towards Rembrandt…..

    Anyway, I woke up today feeling so very great. I went to work and told people outside in the Children’s playground and the school how great I felt. I told them, “I just feel so great today,” that today was a special day, someone’s birthday and that I am so happy to have this person in my Life…. You know, it’s one of those rare days, when you wake up and feel so, so good. Great and you just don’t know why. (?) It’s one of those fine Buddhist moments, (all day) when the entire world is so at Peace. Happy Birthday Duncan and Thank you for making my day so special.

    Love,
    Michele xo

  51. Tramaine Says:

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY DUNCAN!!! A thousand thank yous for your gift of music that you share to us. Cheers to you!

  52. deek_md Says:

    Wow! Cant wait to remix a song and post it.. this is a brilliant idea.. As they say, MASSIVE!

  53. MysticSupernova Says:

    I like your approach. It’s refreshing and innovative. In America, typically artists and actors try to remove themselves from the ‘lower’ echelon. I’ve noticed that other countries don’t do it to the same extent. This just proves you are so cool. I knew you rocked before, but now… I have a new found respect. I don’t really do music, however there’s a first time for everything.

  54. Litterbit Says:

    Wow, can’t wait till the release date =).

    BTW, Happy Birthday, hope it’s a day of wonder and surprise.

  55. boby Says:

    HHILHP6Y 66

  56. blackwuzzy Says:

    Cool:

    http://www.633tv.com/

  57. mike_relay Says:

    This is great news! Not only are you coming out with this DVD, but I just realized they have Live for Windows as well! I’m really looking forward to working with some of those songs, I loved the ones released on the EP. Unfortunately I won’t be the one to make your minimalist electronic record dream come true..

    -mike

  58. astralchanteuse Says:

    I made my birthday wishes on SheikFreik and MySpace. Hope they didn’t go unnoticed.

    I am elated to finally hear a release date! Duncan, I hope you won’t be upset to know that I have “White Limousine” streaming on my MySpace profile. If it bothers you, please let me know, and I’ll remove it. :)

    www.myspace.com/astralchanteuse

    namaste,
    dawn

  59. blue_psyche Says:

    hmmm… will your cd/dvd album be ever released here in the philippines? i really do hope so :) i’m dying to hear “white limousine”!

    :-D Laurie

  60. Roxanne Says:

    Ya just heard “Nothing Fades”.

    You’re a fuckin’ genius man. Hurry up and get your ass back here to California!

    And happy belated birthday love! 26 right?

    Peace, love and rhythm,
    Roxanne

  61. blackwuzzy Says:

    Is the Cat Really out of the Bag?

    *******************************************
    Well, I have three Cat’s. They are still pretty much on the inside.
    One of my Cat’s, Honey…..tries to run out everytime I open the door.
    (Not a good thing to do on such cold days)…I say it’s warmer on the inside.

    Cheers D.
    Much love and Peace,
    Michele

  62. Nickinbelper Says:

    Moby did a similar things some years back (albeit not as well presented). Its a really good idea.

    Nick Derbyshire,UK
    CD on today: Byrne/Eno - My life in the bush of ghosts.

  63. rosenater Says:

    Thanks for truly being an inspiration in my song writing. I hope one day to be able to accomplish a slight portion of what you’ve accomplished with your music.

    Your true friend and fan, Nate
    www.naterosemusic.com

  64. DrPepper Says:

    Sweeeeeeeeeeet! Duncan rules!

  65. Topaz Says:

    Happy Thanksgiving Duncan. I hope you have a wonderful day. :)

    xo,
    Laura

  66. russelld Says:

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

    - Russell

  67. boby Says:

    i HAVEN’T HEARD ANY OF YOUR WORK SINCE THE RELEASE OF “oN A hIGH”, WHICH IS ALWAYS WONDERFULLY REFRESHING TO HEAR.

    cURIOUS IF THE TITLE, “wHITE lIMOSINE”, REPRESENTS YOUR………..YOU KNOW!

    I REMIND MYSELF TO BE THANKFUL EVERY other DAY FOR THE FOLLOWING:
    -NOT IN PRISON (YET)
    -NOT A HOOKER
    -NOT CHRISTIAN
    -A VARIETY OF MOMENTS SHARED WITH MY CHILDREN
    -I’M BEAUTIFUL INSIDE & CURRENTLY GORGEOUS ON THE OUTSIDE
    -DON’T BELIEVE MUCH OF WHAT i HEAR OR SEE OF OTHERS

    hOWEVER, TODAY i AM THE OPPOSITE OF THANKFUL. tODAY i HAVE TO PUT CLOTHES ON & BE SOCIAL, COOK FOR THE PEOPLE SOMEONE ELSE INVITED FOR DINNER, CLEAN UP MY HOUSE BEFORE, DURING & AFTER THEIR ARRIVAL WHEN THEY SHOULD BE AT THEIR OWN HOUSE & NOT MAKING MORE DISHES FOR me TO WASH. tHE FACT THAT i WANT TO AVOID LYING TO ANYONE ABOUT THEIR COOKING & HAVING A PLEASANT MEAL, IS MOTIVATING ME TO TAKE PART OF THEIR HOLIDAY & GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO APPRECIATE. i CANNOT SPEND TIME DOING ANYTHING OR DOING NOTHING AS i DESIRE. aLL OF WHICH WILL BE UNAPPRECIATED, IRONICALLY. i WOULDN’T EVEN WASTE MY TIME POINTING IT OUT BECAUSE LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE i SAY, IT DOESN’T PASS THROUGH HIS EARS AT ALL!

    nO, TODAY i AM THE CYNIC. tHIS GOES FOR THE HOLIDAY TO BUY GIFTS, FORMALLY KNOWN AS cHRIST’S DAY. i, WITHOUT DOUBT, CHERISH A MAN WHOSE ACTIONS WERE FOR ALL GOOD. tHE ONES WHO MURDERED HIM STILL LIVE WITHIN MANY OF US. tHEIR SPIRITS CAN BE IDENTIFIED BY THE TWISTED REPLICA OF HIS DEATH HANGING ON THE WALLS OF THEIR HOMES, REAR-VIEW MIRRORS, ETC.

    lOVES bABES, bOBY

  68. blackwuzzy Says:

    Happy Thanksgiving Duncan :)

    Much love,
    Michele… Have Fun!!!!!

  69. Rproaudio Says:

    Duncan,

  70. Rproaudio Says:

    Duncan, love the Idea, and watch out once you start with reason you don’t stop! I Definitly look forward to messing with the tracks! I love the White Limousine EP from the yellow umbrella tour. I was at the show at the 8×10 in Baltimore when the crazy chick kept asking you for an autograph. Great show! Hope you make it back soon!

    -Robert

  71. Shreve Says:

    Duncan, I have NO clue if you’ll get this (virgin to the ‘blog’ world) but if you do, it’s Shreve, your old Atlantic rep :) WHAT UP? Certainly a lot, good for you my friend. I read you’re coming to the Bluebird in Denver 1/31, would love to say aloha. Phil still with you? Sorry to use your site for my own personal benefit but I’ll take you to sushi when you’re here & we’ll be even. I can be reached via email: shreve.hicks@capitolrecords.com Best to you!

  72. Emu Says:

    The Dallas show is the day before my birthday, YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I get to see Duncan…what a great birthday present!!!!!!!!!

  73. cranie4 Says:

    Howdy,
    I’ve been using Reason for a few years now (currently 3.0.4) with Nuendo 3.0 With those and a Line 6 Variax 500 and a Vetta II amp I’ve cleaned out most of my equipment in the studio. Amazing how flexible Reason is. I have a ton of refills (the mellotron and the new Drumkit 2.0 are amazing). I think it would be cool to have your original Reason song files to load in and remix.

    BTW you know what is really weird? If you look at the demo videos from Propellerhead’s tutorial website http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=2007#
    .. James Bernard almost looks like you :)

    Anyways Duncan..really looking forward to the release and for whenever you play close to MA.

    Mike G
    Cranie4@yahoo.com

  74. cranie4 Says:

    PS…I actually already did a split CD with my songs listed under “Mine” and some covers as “Theirs” :) We’ll never get away from old school memories of an A and B side huh?

  75. cranie4 Says:

    Ugh..I know I’m probably posting this in the completely wrong place so forgive me but I just wanted to ask if you had considered doing anything live for XM satellite radio. They have bands/artists come in to do shows either alone or for an audience (usually on XM 50 The Loft) and it would be a huge boost for you I think. ‘Nickel Creek’ just did one as did ‘Without Gravity’ (both amazing groups if you haven’t heard them yet you must!).

  76. katetay04101 Says:

    Blackwuzzy- I have a cat named Tiger that tries to run out the door, also. What’s the deal with our kitties?? It makes me feel like a bad cat-mom, that my kitty is always trying to run away. I can’t let him out because his previous owner had him de-clawed before they gave him back to the shelter. He can even open the door by himself with this jumpy thing he does with his paws. Maybe Honey and Tiger are trying to find each other.

  77. linnium Says:

    I’m very much looking forward to testing out the Remix DVD. I’m curious to know if I will be able to do further editing in Cubase, or if I will be confined in the Live space.

  78. adi s Says:

    Any news on white limo? I’m quite anxious about the release date. If we pre-order via the site, being in africa will i have to wait 6 - 8 weeks from the official release date to receive it? Anyway, just thinking out loud. Can’t wait…….

  79. Tansy Says:

    Hope gobble-day was filling.
    Eat any cranberries? Any cornbread stuffing?

    Anyway, noticed the tour dates…
    Nothin’ but smiles.

    Sehe du ncste mit,
    Susann

  80. blackwuzzy Says:

    Hi Duncan,

    I am dying for you to write something new. :)

    Have a nice day Duncan. Again, Happy Holidays.

    M :) Much peace…

  81. daddyonthedell Says:

    Duncan, thank you so much for Fantastic Toys. It’s hands down one of your best and most beautiful songs yet. It makes me cry, so you did a perfect job. That one really needs to see the radio, EVERYONE should hear it.

  82. blackwuzzy Says:

    Funny, you should say that. The same effect it had on me. I could not stop the tears from running down my face & cheeks, upon my first few listens at home… I cried like a Baby…at it’s Beauty.

    :) Michele

  83. Topaz Says:

    Yo say DS??

    Hey, I just want to let you know that I’m LOVING the new songs I’ve heard so far. Thank you for your beautiful music once again. :) It makes me happy.

    Laura

  84. Zionide » Blog Archive » White Limousine Says:

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